With the above-mentioned nations hoping to get a permanent seat on the UN Security Council, which is the most appropriate candidate?


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If we were only going to add 1 more, I'd have to say Brazil, since there's no permanent member from South America. Really, all of them should join, though I'd probably put the lowest priority on Germany.

Why would you put the lowest priority on Germany?

My vote would go for Japan - Both China and Japan have sharply contrasting ideas that need to be discussed in the open arena.

I personally don't see any reason for India to join. It just adds another country to make decisions harder to make.

Germany would be the third (fourth if you count Russia) European nation on the Security Council, and they're not exactly a major player in international affairs these days.

Neither is Brazil, but I do think that South America need some sort of representation. Honestly though, I don't know how Brazil reflects the rest of South America's views.

After making this poll, the first thing I did was to vote for Brazil, claro, the latino vote, hehe. OK, there were serious considerations too (as already mentioned herea in the thread) and representation from Latin America seems fundamental to me.

(However, deep inside, I suspect that India should be the first priority for a permanent membership, as the 2nd most populated nation (and by far) and also as a nuclear nation, in contrast to the other 3. I guess they wouldn´t probably get support, to avoid ruffling Pakistan´s feathers.)

Japan should be greeted with open arms - after all, it's the technicological advances that much of the world has to thank Japan form - that, and I beleive that it's the only country to engage in war since WWII. A great mediator.

Good point. I voted Brazil for the South American representation, but I think the point about India is a good one.

I'd put equal emphasis on Germany and Japan. It'd be great if they both could join, as they are both highly developed and politically mature nations.

I'm not sure I still stand behind my vote for Brazil, what with the growth of India.

India. They're the most populous country of the lot.

And just like China, they're currently having an industrial boom. I think we can expect them to be one of the five most powerful countries by 2020 or so.

I voted India and Japan. They're both important countries, and should probably join the UNSC permanently (they're both at least as important as France, which has a seat).

Japan and Germany, but I think if it has to be one, Japan.

Being half Brazilian, I made that vote too. But honestly, South America could use some representation. I don't know if it's just me being ignorant of current events, but I think they seem to be left out on many world affairs.

Why?

My vote goes to India as they are the 2nd most populated country in the world, just under China and far above the USA, they have control of nuclear weapons, and are growing economically at an exponential rate. They deserve the seat.

Japan would be my second decision as they are also very rich and are very intelligent. Their leaders seem to be somewhat cutthroat and very traditional Japanese at times, however. They do not have the population or political strength of a UNSC state.

Brazil would be my third choice. Sure, they are in South America, which isn't represented in the UNSC, but Brazil doesn't necessarily have the same views as the other countries so this honestly doesn't matter. What else do they have? Oh yeah.. oil and futbol. I don't mean to sound racist or something, but COME ON! Brazil?

Germany does not deserve the seat as their international influence has dwindled down to almost nothing since WWII. They would be my last choice.

While you and I both agree that India would be the best choice for a permanent U.N.S.C. seat, your quoted statement is a little off.

While Germany has a tendency to disagree with the positions taken by the French on world concerns, this usually means they side with the United States due to France's propensity to take the opposing stance. For that, they are often discounted to a degree.

The permanent members of the U.N. Security Council are the biggest arm's-dealing nations. Germany is the 6th largest. For that reason alone, they have more international "pull" than what some believe. When a country is called in for arbitration, the Germans are often right behind the Swiss and Swedes in being a neutral European nation. And Israel has higher regards for the Germans (ironically). Must have to do with their arm's purchases and other commercial contracts.

They are respected engineers, businessmen and often show a national pride beyond compare. People with whom I have talked have called France and Italy "dirty" in comparison with Germany. Shop-keepers sweep not only their premises but public sidewalks as well. Their highway system is held in envy by many other nations. They are well organized, even in bureaucractic agencies.

Germany is still not a "Superpower". Nor for that matter is India. But both of their economies are improving to the point that they are definately not far behind that ranking, population totals aside.

You make good points, I just don't foresee Germany having the political power of India nor Japan any time soon.

Besides, German's have that evil, sadistic tendency.

Just kidding. :)

When talking about NAFTA-esq policies for different parts of the world, I'd have to say that Brazil would have an awful lot in common with it's neighbors. Not to mention the fact that oil and soccer, along with surprisingly flimsy governments, is what makes up South America at the moment. On that level, Brazil is right on par with its nearby nations.

Sure, all of these things that you say are correct, but I still would not place them above Japan.

I'd place India above it, but not Japan. Japan does have quite a bit of representation through other nations, like the US at this time. I'm not sure that Brazil or any of the other nations have people who are "less intelligent" (as you say "very intelligent," is one of the reasons why it should be admitted).