From the New York Times

I can honestly say that I don't know too much about Bisexuality. Almost anything that gets in the times about it (no matter how much it controdicts each other) sounds like it "could be" to me. :no:

Don't have an account, is this the full article?

There are several questions which I have

1. They went by what people consider themselves and tested based on that. Some people consider themselves heterosexual for various reasons yet aren't really so.

2. One can guess but I prefer to know, how did they choose who was in the testing?

3. How many did they test?

4. It isn't exactly scientific but when I think about sex with a girl or a guy I get aroused just the same. Ditto for when I see such porn.

Example: I have a fantasy about a girl I loved when she moved to Albany for college. She roomed with two people which I assumed were girls. In my fantasy I went to visit her unannounced, I was taken to a room in her apartment and locked in. There was no phone, bars on the window, etc. So I had no contact with the outside world. She gave me the ultimatum of having sex so she would get pregnant or I don't get food or water. I reluctantly gave in as at the time my views of sex were that I wanted a real relationship first.

We did it then she left for school and work telling one of her roommates to feed me. She then threatened to let me starve or have sex and I would have sex with her. Basically all three girls and I would do it. I got off many times on that fantasy.

While none of my fantasies about guys is nearly as detailed I also get off on the idea of a guys meat being surrounded by my flesh and his creaming in me.

Looking at just photos or watching movies of the "explicit" kind also tells me that I am aroused by both. Sometimes I will imagine I am in the place of the guy and other times I will imagine that I am in the place of the girl.

I wonder though how they define exclusively, do they ignore any slight arousal?

Here is the entire article:

Thanks for that.

I have a lot of problems with the study.

The first is a problem of methodology/interpretation of results.

Why don't a third of the men change the overall findings?

Second, I question to what degree arousal to pornography is culturally engrained (or habitually engrained), as opposed to naturally engrained. That is, even heterosexuals may not be aroused by images of explicit sex at first, but after a degree of exposure to it, may become attracted. Personal experience further enhances this. That is, I don't doubt that there is a biological/natural component to what we can be aroused by, but perhaps we learn to become attracted to certain things.

My main objection is the unfounded (but somewhat necessary) assumption that sexual orientation is reducable to genital arousal. I think human sexuality is far more complex then genital arousal.

Of course, I'm also heavily influenced by Freud, who is mentioned at the outset of the article for believing that all people to some degree are bisexual. For his comments on this, see his "Three Essays on Sexuality."

This reminds me of an article that I believe was in the New York Times a week or so ago. It went over the findings that a new study had found. Brain scans were done on people of different genders as they were excited and reached climax. The article showed some of the brain scans in order from what probably would be just starting until climax.

One thing that I remember about men is that there is an increase of anxiety. Women's brains reacts far differently than mens. I remember in one of the images a certain part of the womens brain was active and they don't have a clue what that means, what it does during it.

I have a friend who is supposedly straight, and she has a bf and got off with some girls. I think that there must be some people who are bisexual, especially since there are quite a few bisexuals.

Yeah I would say again that I think that sexuality is far more complex than most people want to admit. I think that typically, it is not so simple to say "he is straight" or "he is gay." I think there's a good amount of gray area.

People will say, "He can't be gay, he's had a girlfriend!" I think that's a good example of this type of limited thinking. People think that just because someone has one type of orientation, that they can't find sexual pleasure with one or both genders.

Yes, saw something on T.V. (probably Discovery channel) where they found anxiety from watching non-sexual action-intense videos increased the reaction to sexually implicit videos.

As to bisexuality, I don't know that someone can't be equally attracted to both genders. There are male actors whom I enjoy watching more than others, some guy's bodies that look more fit than mine (including my son's when he has his six-pack from swimming) and there is even a guy that has what I can only describe as "very pretty eyes".

Those things are appealing, but not necessarily arousing. Maybe there is a few souls out there that find both sexes so. After watching the movie Alexander the Great on DVD and reading The Throne of Isis, I find myself wondering about the Greek preoccupation with young boys/men. Is it in part that they are envious of the youth and feel better about being able to "sample" it in some way? German males were sometimes reputed for having such a taste as well.

We react to whatever we do. There was a girl standing outside of a mall one time on a partly cloudy, chilly day. While driving by, my mind was idly wondering what I wanted to purchase from inside. Without any warning, I was suddenly struck with lust and immediately looked to the left at the reason. I didn't notice her before and it was only a quick glance that was taken in, because when I turned I really DID look at her then. To this day, that was the most befuddling, unexplainable instance of animal attraction. Heck, I can't even blame pheromones, I was in the pickup with the windows rolled up and she was outside.

So like I'm going to understand what others find attractive and why. Ha!

i kinda think of sexuality as more of a scale, instead of black and white.

as for the study... i'm really not sure how conclusive it would be. i get arroused by lesbian pornography, but i have no real desire to be sexual with another girl.

I think that people, especially these scientists, should take into account the fact that arousal is not only caused by physical stimulation: one can be attracted to another purely because they are the way they are.
There need be no physical or mental reason in the observed party to cause responses in the observer; having known someone for a short while, one can be attracted to them for no apparent reason.

The scientists that conducted this experiment should clearly note that the experiment they performed is imperfect, and a near-perfect alternative would probably be near-impossible because of an inclusion of people who are known to the people being examined having certain arousing or attractive qualities wich need to be measured closely and displayed in cumulatively equal amounts to each of the test subjects, which would be, as mentioned previously, near-impossible.
Unless they intended this to be a test of physical stimulation alone, which would be even more near-impossible, in my view.

Like the kinsey scale?

I believe people can be bi.. I'm not, but I know people who are.

I am bisexual, and I know there are others. The whole problem with this question begins with questions, about what is sexuality? Where does it come from?

I beleive that sexuality is extremely complex, and it is a multi-factrorial dimension of identity. In my opinion, it is a result of genetics, fetal development, social contructs, experiences, and sexual individuality. My theory, is that no two sexual beings have exactly the same sexuality. Everyone has there own special form of sexual preference, for some that means that they prefer the the opposite sex, the same sex, or both. If you have thought of it, there's probably someone out there doing it.

As for the experiment, I think the many questions asked here, prove it is severly flawed and bias. But then again, when in human history have people even been trying to test for sexuality? So i guess its a step, but its nothing earth shattering about REAL sexual identity, or preferences.

I've never really thought of it like that before but i think your right. I suppose that would include specific things about each other that people are attracted to. types of personality, Body part, maybe even just a person as a whole. etc. which of course is tailored to everyone.