Title: "New" Video Game Legislation
Description: My activitst issue
Deltasix - October 2, 2006 01:32 PM (GMT)
You know, with the total lack of anything that I stand for being done both by those who win and those who I'd actually vote for, I think I'm going to base the entireity of my voting record on the stances taken by politicians on video games. It seems to be the area that there is no bullshit in what people think. Not to say what they do isn't BS, but yeah, there is no spooky phrases or 10 second soundbites, just pure, unfiltered, dumbass-ery.
For example:
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Brownback Proposes Game Ratings Bill in Senate
Sen. Sam Brownback (R-KS) has sponsored legislation in the United States Senate which would require the ESRB to play games in their entirety before assigning an age rating.
Brownback’s Truth in Video Game Rating Act (S.3935) would appear to be the Senate version of a House bill of the same name proposed by Rep. Cliff Stearns (R-FL).
“The current video game ratings system needs improvement,” Brownback said, “because reviewers do not see the full content of games and don’t even play the games they are supposed to rate. For video game ratings to be meaningful and worthy of a parent’s trust, the game ratings must be more objective and accurate.”
Brownback’s measure would mandate the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) to administer the requirement for a complete play-through before rating.
“Game reviewers must have access to the entire game for their ratings to accurately reflect a game’s content,” Brownback added.
The bill would also direct the FTC to define parameters for describing video game content as well as defining what kind of behavior by the game industry would break those rules.
Brownback also would have the Government Accountability Office (GAO) evaluate the efficiency of the ESRB system as well as the potential for establishing an independent rating body with no ties to the industry. Universal systems spanning movie, TV and games would also be looked into.
The conservative Brownback has been very active on video game issues in recent times. He worked with Sens. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) and Joe Lieberman (D-CT) on game-related bills such as the recently-passed CAMRA legislation and held committee hearings on video games in the Senate earlier this year.
Full text of Brownback’s new bill is not yet available. We’ll post it when it goes up on the Congressional system. http://gamepolitics.com/2006/09/27/brownba...bill-in-senate/ |
While on the surface, to someone who knows nothing about games beyond "Pong" or the like (or the US congress), it seems like a good idea, it isn't.
I'll quote what Penny Arcade said in its article on this:
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1. "Playing through" games would not have discovered the content that got us into this mess.
Hot Coffee is one thing. That's low-fi erotica secreted away somewhere, dormant on the platter. But Oblivion is actually the better test, because it presents several cases that make the playthrough "thing" unworkable. Oblivion was re-rated based on a nude patch, i.e., user created content. There was some other rationale based on violence, but the ESRB was in an impossible position politically, needed to move, and Bethesda took the fall. But no playthrough is going to detect questionable content based on mods you have not installed. Oblivion also features in-house downloadable content, made by people who are not perverts - official enhancements and powerful horse clothes that can alter the experience. What's more, Oblivion is a vast, vast game - one that I'm sure some are still playing. This isn't a two-hour film or an album by controversial hip-hop firebrand Ice T. It's a dynamic experience based on player input - you might as well hire a cartographer to map the paths of electrons around a nucleus.
There's no turn-key solution to this problem, and I think most people agree it is a problem. At first I thought our noble Senator was simply being naive. I can be forgiven for that, most of the mainstream "sins" we decry are due more to a paucity of experience with the medium as opposed to authentically nefarious intent. He's not naive, though, because
2. "Playing through" games isn't really what the bill is about.
That part is powerful, yes, but it's prestidigitation. Let me tell you that Gabriel will be angry at me for using that word. I hope you aren't - but yes, the notion of them playing games or not playing them is sleight of hand. The bill is actually designed to seize editorial control from the electronic gaming industry. They create their own terms for describing game content - we might call such a thing a ratings system - and then they gin up their own body to discipline this rambunctious industry that has been at the root of so much controversy. Indeed, one can almost imagine the American flag gently billowing. http://www.penny-arcade.com/ |
I bolded one part that I thought of as pretty interesting.
Its just annoying to see lawmakers that know zero about what they are making laws about.....making laws about that.
Oh, and for those of you who are more visual learners, I present this to you:
Kevin Beckman - October 2, 2006 09:11 PM (GMT)
I have a question. Is there a law in place to actually force the gaming industry to get their games rated?
RancerDS - October 3, 2006 02:35 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Kevin Beckman @ Oct 2 2006, 04:11 PM) |
| I have a question. Is there a law in place to actually force the gaming industry to get their games rated? |
Naturally, this link is to a retailer's information page:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id...1&type=categoryFor those wanting the drier, government issue:
http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:yJS9yb...us&ct=clnk&cd=4ESRB's own site:
http://www.esrb.org/ratings/faq.jspThe long and short of it, no...
it's not required, it's voluntary. And the ESRB is an independant organization, not responsible for answering to government in the absence of any governing laws or being an actual government agency. It is wise marketing to go ahead and get a rating... perhaps even with the hopes of getting a harsher rating for more appeal.
It's ironic how Lieberman sang praises for the ESRB...
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Although the rating system has received high praise from a wide range of constituents, including U.S. Senator Joseph Lieberman (D-CT) who called the ESRB system an “industry model” and the “best entertainment rating system in existence... |
Yet Lieberman rants it's still not enough, especially since "Hot Coffee" slipped past the ratings system. Hillary Clinton and he are proposing the "Federal Entertainment Protection Act" (FEPA?). You can get the low-down off of her own site -
http://clinton.senate.gov/news/statements/...s.cfm?id=249368.
OPINIONJust think, we can all play our games in the safety and privacy of our own home... just as long as the game and the game's audience are fully certified/licensed. That's right, a "license to kill" might be required in the gaming industry. I look forward to the day when I have documentation allowing me to prove I am an adult and am able to view pornographic material, play violent games and oh... own a real hand gun, drink alcohol... not to mention, be forced to fight in Iraq if in the military. Or would it be okay if the soliders overseas play GTA? Nah..... too much sex and violence for them too, right?? And if it's not, guess you have to be on the government payroll for law enforcement or military to be able to enjoy them.
Deltasix - October 24, 2006 09:24 PM (GMT)
Aye, soon enough "Video Game Control" laws are going to become harsher than gun control laws. Heck, I imagine the laws governing overseeing what can and can't be done with a gun (such as ease of modifications, gun kits, etc) are probably going to be less strict than video game enforcement.
Spurius - October 27, 2006 01:45 AM (GMT)
Just to add, I couldn't agree with you more when you talk of how stupid it is that people who know nothing about video games are trying to set laws for them. The new game Bully is a great example of that, it was almost just as controversial as San Andreas, before any information about the game, other than it was being developed by Rockstar, and it was going to be in a school setting, was even released. They started accusing it of being a "columbine simulator".
I bought this game a few days ago, and it's actually a very light-hearted game, and rated Teen. Pompous fuckasses just assumed that it was going to be a horrible game, and it was blown so incredibly out of proportion, for nothing. Even my father heard about it, and he knows nothing about video games. :P
I think more people are trying to get involved with picking on video games simply because it's a hot topic in the media and they want to get their names mentioned in some third rate magazine, or possibly their face on some third rate news program. The only problem is they're making themselves look like fucking morons in the process.
Example: Jack Thompson.
RancerDS - October 27, 2006 05:02 AM (GMT)
I wonder if the developers at Rockstar might try a little marketing coup.
Perhaps they should confront those so dead-set against the release of certain video games, they should buy them at full retail to have a nice little demonstration like book burning (except burning the game CD's), all the while pointing out they ruin a perfectly good computer game that could have kept young children at home versus going out to beat up the neighbourhood kids?? Or maybe just off the streets late at night and doing who know's what for peer pressure or prestige???
Deltasix - December 20, 2006 01:51 PM (GMT)
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| They started accusing it of being a "columbine simulator". |
Oh Jack Thompson, he'd be funny if he wasn't so pathetic. Anyone who commits a murder AND owns a video game trained on the game, obviously.
Zairik - December 21, 2006 04:43 AM (GMT)
I'm really starting to see a lot more of those --Content or experience may vary in online gameplay that may not be considered in the rating-- sort of messages on games now. It's going to pretty close to impossible to rate games that are more complex.
Perhaps they should add more to the rating. With complex games, add more detailed ratings. If it's predicted that patches will come that may make the character sprites nude or add animated blood or the like then just put a small letter "p" for "Patchs Expected/Available" below the larger rating such as "E" for everyone or "T" for Teen.
Morpheus - December 21, 2006 02:15 PM (GMT)
Problem is, though, there's no way you can predict what player will make what patch.
Zairik - December 21, 2006 06:07 PM (GMT)
Which is why they shouldn't try rating for future patches, but just warn people that they are expected. You can change a game's rating drastically with one patch. Instead of rating based on patches, they should rate based on the original game and tell that patches are expected or are already available. And I'm sure making some attempt at playing a game before rating it would help too. >_<